Sunday, August 16, 2009


This painting is titled "The Scream" by Edvard Munch. After our August 17th session, please start with your comments.

39 comments:

  1. It is a very interesting painting, the color red makes me feel...

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  2. Hector Llerenas Cardenas
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    Arte y Cultura
    18/08/09

    I liked the painting because it is somenthing interesting. The painting is a bit difficult to appreciate because i'm a beginner and it is harder to appreciate the textures, the colors and the feelings that the author had when he made this piece of art.

    The painting made me feel of suspense when I saw the person screaming. Even for the bright and beatiful colors the picture of this girl makes me sad, and that's the only thing a dont like about the picture.

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  3. Marco Vinicio Gómez Gudiño
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    Arte y Cultura
    18/08/09

    I didn't like very much the picture of this girl, because it transmit the feeling of desesperation, sadness, angriness and other bad feelings that I dislike very much.

    The only thing that i like is the form that it is painted, with bright colors, good background, and very good manual skills.

    Its a bit difficult for me to analize a picture so complicated because i'm just a beginner and it requieres more experience and visual skills to describe it well.

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  4. Aldo Medina
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    I do like this picture, i like the feeling it transmits, everything in it transmits such a powerful strength, specially the colors.
    The thick brushes and the expression on the man's face transmit a very disturbing, but strong emotion of desperation and surprise.
    Some of the details are pretty surprising if you take a close look at the painting, for example the man standing on the other side of the bridge looks perfectly calm, the dark shadows reflecting on the river.
    So yes i think this is a very good painting

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  5. Azul Sánchez Gosch
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    well, The painting is very interesting, because has something different, the red color makes it look attraction and strength.

    I think that the pearson is trying to say something like help and look so scared. The painting has atractive color.

    The picture makes me feel scared, because i think that is happening something.

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  6. Luis Martín Guardado Aguayo
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    I like this painting, but it makes me feel like if I was been stalked,
    when I look at it I feel like if I had to run away,
    the colors in the sky make me feel ancious, but I feel that its a warm painting too
    I like the colors that are used, but I don´t like the symmetry of the painting.
    Anyway, I think that its a good painting, I feel that the autor was feeling desperate and maybe
    disturbed, and the man at the bottom gives me the sensation that it is a persecution
    and if I look straight to the main person's ayes, I see like if he was seen at the man on the
    back.


    thats all xD


    Mr. Martín

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  7. I don't really know if this picture really likes me, but what I'm sure is that when somebody talks to me about art I always remember this picture specifically.

    What it transmit me is desesperation, and thats what I think that the pinter was feeling in that moment because he transmit it very good.

    If someone asks me if it's art I could say yes. Why? By te colorful, texture, context and because it makes me feel something.

    Manuel Glez A
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    08/18/09

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  8. Cesar Alberto Luna Sandoval
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    Well, actually, i like a lot this painting, the colors that are used there give me transmit me a warm feeling but at the same tine it gives me creeps.
    I like the way that the mountains and the lake are painted, is like, all the world is making no sense at all.
    The person in black in the back make me feel like im being watched, but at the same time, the person reflects a lot of serenity.
    The way that the man is touching his head with his hands, makes me feel that there is something wrong with his head, or with his mind, like he´s preoccupied about his state of mind or something that is happening on his life.
    In conclusion, i like everything about this painting, is a well made painting.

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  9. Mariana Valladares Anguiano
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    ...the scream....")

    Well if i use my imaginacion i can see something ireal like the art that envolve the scream.

    In the paint I see the form and the direccions of the brushes of colors. The painters message looks in the form of the lines.

    this picture makes me feel like in a twilight in the middle of a wharf,like if i were looking the sky and someone distract me and i lose the oportunity of see something wonderful. At the same time this makes me feel scare, no by the fact that someone is screaming,by the fact that someone is been stalked in the middle of a wharf before night.

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  10. Andrea Martínez González
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    I like this painting, however, I don’t know what the painter wanted to transmit to me, it transmit a little fear, desesperation, even craziness, maybe the person feels separated from the rest and he is trying to find sense in the things that surround him.

    I like a lot the colors, because the red gives a feeling of strength, I like the combination of the colors and that all the colors there are deep. I also like the background because I think that in the background are located the feelings that he is trying to transmit, because the person in there is different to the landscape that is really intense.

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  11. Jorge Addid Gutierrez Velasco
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    It is a very interesting painting cause of all the aspects that it shows. on one hand it is a painting with many colors, what shows tranquility, harmony and happiness. But on the other hand the person shouting shows fear and painful feelings, the opposite that expresses with the colors. Anyway, this is a painting which is hard to understand because of all the details that it has, they make it confussing.

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  12. Melissa Ramírez Reyna 998701

    This picture projects me feelings like anguish, fear, desesperation, and heat. This is not a picture which I'll like to have, because I prefer one that expresses me like happiness, tranquility, peace, love, besides another things. Even though, I think that it is an interesting picture, because it has the power to express feelings, maybe bad feelings, but its a picture that tells you many things.

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  13. Luis Mario Diaz Rincón

    To be honest, i don´t like it at all. For me, it transmits pain, courage, loneliness and a lot of bad feelings that i can´t exactly remember right now.

    By the time i was watching it, i start thinking about the autor, about the moments he was living when he painted that...and it was scary.

    But maybe, the painting has some deep feelings hiding behind the paint, and that's what we have to find out. But i haven´t find those "hiding feelings" yet.

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  14. There is something in the painting that makes me curious. There's something wrong; perfectly wrong. Like if I was supposed to feel the wrongness of the paint, of the scream. As if the scream was meant for us, for me, or for Edvard himself. For our mouth, and not his -whoever he is-.
    I'm trying to find the wrong piece, and I find that it might not be something in the painting, but in the intention of it. It's, probably, the reason of his scream; there lies the wrongness for me. Why does he need to scream? Do I need to scream? Don't we all need to scream?

    It's a little hard for me, but that's what passionate me so much. The art of painting has this mystery I can not solve... yet. Maybe I'm wrong with what I'm saying, but that's what I feel from the painting. I feel as if Edvard wanted me to understand that there's something wrong, which deserves a scream (I know art is sometimes much more personal, and I might not be right, but I feel this way).

    And the way Edvard communicates the wrongness is delightful (at least for me). The curves are exactly the needed atmosphere for the scream. Those curves are desperate, just as him.
    And, of course, the aggressive colors: The red, the orange, the brown, and even the blue, are screaming colors. At least here, even the blue is obsessive, and a little compulsive. The mixture of the colors is a desperation. The mixture of the everything equals a scream.


    Francisco Aguilar Rosas
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  15. Eduardo Urbina
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    Uhmm.. I think that the autor wants to transmit the emotions that he are feeling at the moment or in the situation in wich was, or familiar problem or something like that, the combination of colors wants to express something of panic, since if the man of the image is shouting is because anything scares him, but in my opinion i like more paintings with cold colors.

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  16. miguel abraham diaz Q.
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    arte y cultura

    I think the autor was thinking about something scared or something like that.
    i think that he put´s the black man behind the scared man because that´s the reason of why he is scared.

    i like the background because the light of the sky its the same that apears on the evening and the watter is like black and blue and i think the autor put that to give more panic or something like that.

    i don´t know the autor but that painting it´s interesting for me =)

    ABRAHAM.

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  17. Gabriela Mayram Pérez Aguilar.

    I think that this is a beautiful picture.
    When i saw this picture at the firt time i was confused because the person in the picture look like scared but i think that the background is beautiful is like a landscape with mountains a lake and a beautiful bridge.

    I realy don't know what did the painter thinking.

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  18. I want to comment about Pako's post.

    I think it's clearly that there is a wrongness, of course it should be. When we scream it's always because we are afraid of something. As you say I believe that the wrongness is on the intencion. But is the wrong thing represented on the painting? or was it just in Munch's mind?

    I was facinated with your questions: "do I need to scream? don't we all need to scream?". Everyone has had a probleam at least once in his live right? And a scream would be an eficient form to distress us. But the problem will still there. So why a scream and not a smiled instead?

    You also mentioned that the art of painting has a mistery which you haven't solved yet. And I don't think that you're going to solve it never because it's not something that you can be wrong or right, it's just interpretation, its just art! So, in my opinion anyone couldn't be right or wrong. They just can feel and that would be Ok. If we feel anything when we watch the painting... it has acomplished it's job. And so has the painter.

    I really like reading your texts Pako. Congratulations! I do believe that you're going to be a great writter.

    Isaac Aguirre

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  19. Hector Llerenas:
    Maybe the fact that it makes you sad is the element that turns this painting into a piece of art. Whenever a painting causes you to experience a feeling and maybe even generate an idea it might be achieving its goal.
    I like the fact that you actually make interesting assumptions about this painting, for instance you say that the main character is a girl.
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  20. Marco, although you might dislike those feelings, you felt them anyway, remember that art doesnt neccessarily has to cause comfortable feelings.
    You also think that the main character is a girl, that is very interesting, I have never pictured that. Next time make sure you explain exactly what elements of the painting made you feel that way.

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  21. Aldo, you made a very good job describing your perspective of the painting. I agree with you it is very interesting to analyze the expression of the other person. And isn´t life that way? One can be desperate, questioning everything, and another individual is just passing through life, with no interest in whatever is happening around.
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  22. well, The painting is very interesting, because has something different, the red color makes it look attraction and strength.
    Azul, you made a couple of very interesting comments about the color and you also found the feeling that the painting produced in you. However the lenght is not enough and you only participated once.

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  23. Sorry about last comment Azul, (the first paragraph is yours). When you say: the red color makes it look "attraction and strenght" you are using nouns when you want to use adjectives: attractive and strong.

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  24. Mr. Martin,
    I really enjoyed your comment, you created a little story and that is exactly what this is all about, that your creativity awakes through arts. Just make sure next time you comment twice.
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  25. Excellent contribution Alex. Make sure next time you participate twice at least.
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  26. "Is like, all the world is making no sense at all"
    Cesar, I really liked your comment, it made me think of many interesting things about the painting. Im glad that you have noticed all these details.
    Make sure you participate more next time.

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    The person in black in the back make me feel like im being watched, but at the same time, the person reflects a lot of serenity.
    The way that the man is touching his head with his hands, makes me feel that there is something wrong with his head, or with his mind, like he´s preoccupied about his state of mind or something that is happening on his life.
    In conclusion, i like everything about this painting, is a well made painting.

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  27. Mariana, Loved your interpretation, I really like how you "put" yourself in the painting and become a character of it.

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  28. Andrea, very good interpretation. I liked the way you focused on the colors and the way colors are used to transmit different type of sensations.
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  29. Jorge, interesting comment. I have a couple of questions for you: First, why do you perceive the colors of the painting as peaceful?; second, why do you say that the painting is full of details?
    I find your perception very different to what it is generally understood from the painting and I would love to know your reasons.

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    It is a very interesting painting cause of all the aspects that it shows. on one hand it is a painting with many colors, what shows tranquility, harmony and happiness. But on the other hand the person shouting shows fear and painful feelings, the opposite that expresses with the colors. Anyway, this is a painting which is hard to understand because of all the details that it has, they make it confussing.

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  30. Sorry Jorge, in depth you got 80 because you didnt complete 10 lines. 60 total.

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  31. Melissa, I agree with you, I like the fact that you recognize that emotions produced by art do not have to be pretty. Make sure next time you contribute more and complete at least ten lines.
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  32. Mario:

    Whenever you dont remember the feelings, go back to the painting and feel them back. Great! I like that you are interested in getting to know what was happening in Munch´s mind when he painted "The Scream".
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  33. I think we all need to scream. And I agree with you, the whole painting is a screa. The reason does not matter, your reason, my reason and every viewer´s reason is the important thing. Got a question for you: What is it in particular that makes the painting scream?

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  34. Eduardo,I liked your comment, the fact that you try to understand the circumstances that made the painter expressed the way he did.
    Panic is what you experienced then panic it is. Remind me to talk to you about an interesting comparison between arts and decoration (about the colors we like)

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  35. Good Abraham! You appreciatted the color of the sky and you relate it to reality. Can you think of a reason explaining why the black man is chasing our character?

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  36. Mayram,

    It is interesting that you find the background beautiful, id like you to answer this question: What are the characteristics that make the bridge beautiful?
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  37. I want to comment Isaac's comment about my comment about the picture. (I had to write it xD)

    Heh, well... First of all thanks for your compliments and your faith in me. Seriously.

    Up there, you were agreeing about the wrongness I mentioned. And as for your questions, I think I should explain myself a little: When I said -or wrote- that "the wrongness is in the intention", I meant that the wrongness I feel is not coming from the friends at the end of the bridge, nor from de death, nor anything. What I think is that the wrongness (I guess this will answer your question, Charly) is not a representation in the painting, but the whole. The mixture, the combination, the final result. The intention was translated in colors and expressions, and in faces and landscapes. You could say it was in Edvard's mind while painting. And, of course, that wrongness is what makes the painting scream.

    About the mystery of the art of painting, you're right. I'll never get THAT mystery. But I was referring to another one, which you even mentioned. It's how to appreciate a painting. I mean, I can appreciate a text, and a song; but the music is an instinct, we practically born knowing how to appreciate it, while the literature is something which I am very familiar to. And that's the reason of my passion about this art. When I see a painting, I don't know what to see. What counts in the painting: The message, or the ability to paint? Well, I know that both count, but I know it theoretically, not practically. If I make the analogue with the literature, I see that both count equally; but when I'm in front of the painting, I don't know what to see.
    Well, when I made my comment here, I kind of got it. I tried to write what I was feeling, basing my comment in the technique and the message... And I'm still trying to solve that mystery, though I feel that I'm closer to solve it now.
    And that's why I'm interested especially in this art in particular, because it makes me curious with this mystery.

    And, as for your reflection about the problems in life, you're right. We all need to scream, is a great way of distress. Yet (though I'm attempting to be a little off-topic), it'd be very hard to answer the problems with a smile. It can be done, but for that you would need an immense ability of forgiveness and acceptance, for actually not to care about them. If you do not, you are only swallowing your pain, and that gives you problems even bigger than the originals, which even attempt against your health. That's actually one of my problems; I swallow a lot my pain, and rarely let off steam, or unburden myself.
    There are times I really need to scream.

    Err... Well. That'd be all, I guess.

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  38. Beautiful! Thanks for sharing this Paco.

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  39. in response of Mariana´s comment

    Andrea Matinez Gonzalez
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    Marina i really like your comment because i like when you say that you can see something ireal and also when you explain all the feelings that the painting reflects you and you really feel something strong when you see the painting.

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